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What variety of hops is wild hops in Ireland likely to be?

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Postby GrimRob » Tue May 18, 2010 9:09 pm

Got my eye on a lovely wild hop plant that I saw last year. Got there too late then - the cones were too old.

Of the few fresh cones left, they were quite big (sort of the diameter of a E2 coin) and quite spicy and pungent. Definately a strong aroma.

Does this sound familiar?
Is there a hop variety that was commonly grown in Ireland in the past?

(thinking of doing a 100% wild hop trial beer this summer/autumn - on my own, or with the cork brewers if interested in sharing the hop)

edit: I plan on leaving the plant where it is. got a small piece of the rhizome to try grow, but 99.8% of the hops is still there.
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Postby DEMPSEY » Tue May 18, 2010 9:24 pm

how will you know what acid content it will have and do you need to cure the hops first.
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Postby TheBeerNut » Tue May 18, 2010 9:38 pm

GrimRob wrote:Is there a hop variety that was commonly grown in Ireland in the past?
Goldings is the only one I've ever heard of grown here commercially.
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Postby GrimRob » Tue May 18, 2010 9:41 pm

DEMPSEY wrote:how will you know what acid content it will have and do you need to cure the hops first.

Dried like this :D

I think the acid content is all part of the fun. I'll use a moderate amount of hops with a base of pale&crystal, and let the hops decide the beer style. Could be IPA bitter, or very light and aromatic. Perhaps assume it's 5%AA and work from there.

Knowing what variety it could be would help in a more accurate decision.

Surely (assuming it's a pure variety), only the likes of fuggles, goldings etc. were grown in Ireland historically. If that is indeed where this one originated from.
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Postby GrimRob » Tue May 18, 2010 9:45 pm

TheBeerNut wrote:
GrimRob wrote:Is there a hop variety that was commonly grown in Ireland in the past?
Goldings is the only one I've ever heard of grown here commercially.


Ah, beat me to the last post. I thought this was probably the case. So going with 5%AA should be a good start so.
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Postby Tube » Tue May 18, 2010 10:41 pm

The AA can be tested fairly easily (for a lab guy) in a lab. Dunno the cost tho.
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Postby oblivious » Wed May 19, 2010 7:49 am

TheBeerNut wrote:
GrimRob wrote:Is there a hop variety that was commonly grown in Ireland in the past?
Goldings is the only one I've ever heard of grown here commercially.


Was it not Kilkenny Fuggles according to the late Micheal Jackson?
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Postby TheBeerNut » Wed May 19, 2010 9:42 am

oblivious wrote:Was it not Kilkenny Fuggles according to the late Micheal Jackson?
Dunno about Michael Jackson (I've never read any of his books) but it was Oz Clarke who told me that Kilkenny Goldings were grown here, and exported too, I think.
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Postby RichieH » Wed May 19, 2010 10:37 am

TheBeerNut wrote:
oblivious wrote:Was it not Kilkenny Fuggles according to the late Micheal Jackson?
Dunno about Michael Jackson (I've never read any of his books) but it was Oz Clarke who told me that Kilkenny Goldings were grown here, and exported too, I think.


east kilkenny goldings perhaps.
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Postby Tube » Wed May 19, 2010 12:23 pm

TheBeerNut wrote:
oblivious wrote:Was it not Kilkenny Fuggles according to the late Micheal Jackson?
Dunno about Michael Jackson (I've never read any of his books) but it was Oz Clarke who told me that Kilkenny Goldings were grown here, and exported too, I think.

MJ has said it was fuggles, in Kilkenny. I don't know his source, or if it's accurate.
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Postby TheBeerNut » Wed May 19, 2010 12:26 pm

Tube wrote:
TheBeerNut wrote:it was Oz Clarke who told me that Kilkenny Goldings were grown here
MJ has said it was fuggles,
There's only one way to find out: FIGHT!
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Postby Tube » Wed May 19, 2010 12:50 pm

TheBeerNut wrote:
Tube wrote:
TheBeerNut wrote:it was Oz Clarke who told me that Kilkenny Goldings were grown here
MJ has said it was fuggles,
There's only one way to find out: FIGHT!

I think Oz will get a bye on that one :)
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Postby Barry M » Wed May 19, 2010 10:59 pm

Shamon! Oh, wrong one...
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Postby rebel » Thu May 20, 2010 9:57 pm

white gypsy brewer culan will known the answer
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Postby delzep » Thu May 20, 2010 10:32 pm

are hops grown in the botanic gardens?
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