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Postby Biertourist » Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:28 am

Rossa, where you describe those hops are IS about where I planted them. Did you dig them up?


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Postby Irish Party Ale » Thu Sep 06, 2012 2:43 pm

Im planning on starting into growing hops myself next year. Am I correct in saying that I should wait until spring until I plant? And does / will anyone have rhimzones / cuttings that they'll swap for beer?
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Postby rossa » Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:50 pm

Adam, I left them where they were. I might pop by this time next year and see how they are fairing. ..unless they are varieties I don't have. What are they?
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Postby Tube » Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:53 pm

They're off cuts of a Fuggles and (EK) Goldings I bought in Kent.

JamesM was saying he went to where (he thinks) they are but couldn't find them.
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Postby rossa » Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:57 pm

If I knew which was the EKG I might dig it up. I have a fuggles.
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Postby rossa » Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:59 pm

If JamesM is looking for some I am moving my hops to my new allotment in the next few months so I'm gonna cut some rhyzomes and share them about. Goes for anyone else too. I've First gold, Fuggles and WGV. Beer for hop swap sounds good!
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Postby JamesM » Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:24 pm

Well - I went to a location where adam had planted some hops (beside seapoint dart station) and they had gone.
But i think Adam may have gone on a serial planting mission - so they may not be the same ones.
Give us a shout when you've rhizomes - im not in any mad rush for them but ill take some if theyre going and no one else wants them. (I see Irish Party Ale is looking for some in another thread)
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Postby johnrm » Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:27 am

Long story short...
Hop plants indoors in pots on bamboo and string since about March.
These damn things just want to grow longer and longer, just no cones.
What triggers cone production? Can I trick the plant into sprouting cones?
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Postby Tube » Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:34 am

Conditions have to be right. They won't if they're too young, pot bound, too little sun, too many bugs, too much wind, etc.
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Postby johnrm » Fri Sep 07, 2012 3:16 pm

You mean - Ireland=Snowballs chance in Hell
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Postby Spud 395 » Fri Sep 07, 2012 4:57 pm

Direct sunlight plays a big part in growth and cone production. I've 4 plants, 2 on a south facing fence which are looking promising this year and 2 more south westerly which will produce nothing.

I cant imagine indoors will work
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Postby Tube » Fri Sep 07, 2012 5:23 pm

johnrm wrote:You mean - Ireland=Snowballs chance in Hell

No, hops have been grown quite successfully here on commercial scales. You just need to have lots of sun, no wind but good airflow, a moderate around of rain, a plan for dealing with bugs (they can be successfully countered with other bugs), and some sprays if you get mildew which is likely if conditions are damp.
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Postby johnrm » Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:14 pm

Must.Get.Southerly.Field.
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Postby Biertourist » Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:46 pm

It's really the HOURS of sunlight that impact hop growth. They won't flower until they get over a certain number of hours of sunlight (some home growers in less-than-ideal latitudes have to run electric lights outside on timers to get their hops to flower). The cones also only finish maturation and turn papery when the number of hours of sunlight drop below another certain variety-specific threshold. (This is why the harvest dates vary based upon latitude.)

They're super photosensitive plants, but Ireland is at a great latitude to grow them. (Although the weather is wet enough to make mildews a real problem so choose your variety carefully and with mildew disease resistance in mind.)



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Postby johnrm » Sat Sep 08, 2012 9:09 am

Fascinating stuff, I really need to get buried in a book to know more.
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